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  the Mormon Church has $70,000,000,000

  by neat blue dog in

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  https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2020/03/07/lds-church-discloses/.

  it turns out the lds church has about $38b in stocks and mutual funds from major companies such as apple, microsoft, amazon, walmart and others.

  they also have numerous dummy corporations to hold assests with a combined value of $32b.

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  neat blue dog

  Those are excellent points SBF that throw a whole different light on it, thanks.

  Still I wish there were some more concrete recent records of WTs stock holdings.
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  the Mormon Church has $70,000,000,000

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2020/03/07/lds-church-discloses/.

  it turns out the lds church has about $38b in stocks and mutual funds from major companies such as apple, microsoft, amazon, walmart and others.

  they also have numerous dummy corporations to hold assests with a combined value of $32b.

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  neat blue dog

  https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2020/03/07/lds-church-discloses/

  It turns out the LDS church has about $38b in stocks and mutual funds from major companies such as Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, Walmart and others. They also have numerous dummy corporations to hold assests with a combined value of $32b. That's about $70 billion, with a "b", not counting all their property.

  Makes me wonder if the wealth of the WTS hasn't been severely underestimated? If so, then all these lawsuits won't make a real dent. Unless they aren't as good at investing as Mormons. Have there been any concrete leaks to show the actual value of WT holdings, both in stock and banks?
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  Anyone have a copy of that JW poem about a child who doesn't survive Armageddon?

  by Bleep Bloop in

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  i think it was called "a mother's thoughts.

  " it was a rather dreadful poem written from the viewpoint of a mom a few weeks after armageddon, reminiscing about her child that didn't survive.

  in one part, the rebellious kid says, "i can take care of myself in snow, sleet or rain.

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  neat blue dog

  Never came across that, but it sounds morbid.
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  TRUE Fortune Cookie story

  by Terry in

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  true fortune cookie story____it was a new chinese buffet restaurant and it didn't last very long.the proprietors were young, hip, and way too modern.

  *for one thing, they got their fortune cookies from a different source than all other restaurants --the fun kind of fortune cookie which is specific and definite.my fortune, for example:"a tall, hot blonde will enter your life today.

  "zowie!that put a bit of pep in my step!

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  neat blue dog

  Nice 😅👏
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  Do you think any of the GB have different beliefs?

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  do you think any higher ups know that much of the doctrine they teach is bunk?

  thinking back to the time of raymond franz, how he pointed out specifically numerous teachings that the churches really did have right all along, and really any of the hidden mic apostacy trials you listen to on youtube, you see that even when inconvenient bible teachings are proven, the elders just try to sweep it under the rug and move on.

  i think i remember franz saying how one of the gb approached him somewhat sympathetically, but there was nothing he could do.. whether you believe in the bible or not, there are some basic beliefs common among most denominations because they're just so plainly stated, such things as heavenly life for all christians, no central authority structure, minimal use of god's name, etc.

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  neat blue dog

  Do you think any higher ups know that much of the doctrine they teach is bunk? Thinking back to the time of Raymond Franz, how he pointed out specifically numerous teachings that the churches really did have right all along, and really ANY of the hidden mic apostacy trials you listen to on YouTube, you see that even when inconvenient Bible teachings are proven, the Elders just try to sweep it under the rug and move on. I think I remember Franz saying how one of the GB approached him somewhat sympathetically, but there was nothing he could do.

  Whether you believe in the Bible or not, there are some basic beliefs common among most denominations because they're just so plainly stated, such things as heavenly life for all Christians, no central authority structure, minimal use of God's name, etc. With all the research these guys have done books they've read for selective quote mining and apostacy cases they've heard, you can't help but wonder how they can just make themselves forget, and if maybe some harbour private beliefs but 'wait on Jehovah'.

  For instance at the annual meeting Sam Herd was speaking of his father who never became a Witness, and speaking of his age said:

  and today if he were . . . uh . . . if he would be here, he would be [so many years] old

  To me it sounds like he almost said "if he were alive" but then corrected himself to say awkwardly "if he would be here", as if maybe he hopes he's in heaven watching over him right now, as many like to think. I know I could easily be reading too much into it but I was just thinking.
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  One Question Survey

  by Iamallcool in

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  did you leave jw because they are hign control religion?

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  neat blue dog

  No, because I found out that what they teach isn't true.

  That's the story they like to propogate though, that any who leave JWs do so for selfish motive, etc.
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  Quotes from 3/8/2020 WT study

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  here's just a few random observations from tomorrow's wt study:.

  jesus’ command to make disciples was not limited to christians living in the first century.

  jesus concluded his instructions to his followers with the words: “i am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” (matt.

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  neat blue dog

  There have always been good eggs just as there have always been bad eggs, individuals are individuals. Point is though there never was an ideal golden age of JW-dom, they've been corrupt from the get go.
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  Shoehorning events regarding so called bible prophecy

  by nowwhat? in

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  does anyone really look at england and the united states as a duel world power?

  america alone is the world power.

  you can lump england in with other counties like france and germany.

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  Of course in recent years they've explained many times that prophecy isn't usually understood until AFTER it happens . . . How very convenient.
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  Quotes from 3/8/2020 WT study

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  here's just a few random observations from tomorrow's wt study:.

  jesus’ command to make disciples was not limited to christians living in the first century.

  jesus concluded his instructions to his followers with the words: “i am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” (matt.

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  neat blue dog

  Here's just a few random observations from tomorrow's WT study:

  Jesus’ command to make disciples was not limited to Christians living in the first century. How do we know? Jesus concluded his instructions to his followers with the words: “I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things.” (Matt. 28:20)

  I can't understate how ridiculous this is, because it's obviously referring to the destruction of Jerusalem. Then it goes on to say

  True to Jesus’ words, today the disciple-making work is in full swing. Think of it! Nearly 300,000 people each year get baptized as Jehovah’s Witnesses and become disciples of Jesus Christ!

  Yes, but meanwhile OVER 300,000 people are born every day . . . And the world population currently increases by 81 million net every year!

  Then there's this insidious gem about starting new income streams from even Bible studies.

  When the time is right, do not hold back from mentioning the privilege of supporting the Kingdom work financially.

  Finally, there's this choice bit regarding taking the Circuit Overseer with you on a study.

  If you are not comfortable conducting the study in the presence of an experienced brother, invite him to conduct the study on that occasion.
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  Child Baptism - March 2020 monthly program

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  the march 2020 monthly program of jw broadcasting mentions child baptism a couple of times.. the first was in an interview with an 80-something jw who said that after he was baptized he prayed 'you can bring the end any time now jehovah', admitting that his likely reason was that he thought the end was imminent and he would die otherwise.

  but then he goes on to recommend child baptism, saying it should be "for as young as they can possibly make it".. then regarding some large recent conventions, they mention that at one where almost a thousand were baptized, are large portion (no exact number given) were children..

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  neat blue dog

  The March 2020 monthly program of JW Broadcasting mentions child baptism a couple of times.

  The first was in an interview with an 80-something JW who said that after he was baptized he prayed 'you can bring the end any time now Jehovah', admitting that his likely reason was that he thought the end was imminent and he would die otherwise. But then he goes on to recommend child baptism, saying it should be "for as young as they can possibly make it".

  Then regarding some large recent conventions, they mention that at one where almost a thousand were baptized, are large portion (no exact number given) were children.